Today’s Blogger:
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Today’s Facilitator:
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Important Events:
(List the important events from each chapter of the reading you did for today. Talk about the significance of these events.)
Ch. 28
Ch. 29
Important Passages:
(List at least one important passage from the reading you did for today. Talk about the significance of this passage.)
Focus Questions:
(Discuss the questions below. Record your discussion for all three of the following questions.)
1. The suffering that Jane endures is compounded by her belief that she has “no claim to ask” for help. How is this philosophy in keeping with her character?
2. As the author of the text, Bronte is the artist who chooses what events happen in the plot. Why did she choose to create a section where her main character goes through so much pain? Is it appropriate?
3. Brontë populates the novel with many female characters roughly the same age as Jane—Georgiana and Eliza Reed, Helen Burns, Blanche Ingram, Bertha, Mary and Diana Rivers. How do comparisons with these characters shape the reader's understanding of Jane's character?
Extra Time – Discussion Notes:(Record any additional discussion. What did you find most interesting? Did you disagree about anything? Was something important realized? What literary terms did you discuss? What do you think about the characters and their actions? ETC…)
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Today’s Blogger: Amanda
Today’s Facilitator: Jennifer
Important Events:
Ch. 28: Jane is wandering around starving, and she is taken in by Mary, Dianna, and St. John.
Ch. 29: Jane is sleeping most of the time. We learn a lot about Mary, Dianna, and St. John. She calls herself Jane Elliott.
Important Passages:
”Mr. Rochester was safe: he was God’s, and by God would he be guarded. I again nestled to the breast of the hill; and ere long in sleep forgot sorrow.” (345)
Focus Questions:
1. She doesn’t have parents and she didn’t have money. She thought of herself as a nobody, and this means to her she has no reason to ask anything of anybody.
2. Bronte puts Jane through a lot of physical pain to reflect the amount of emotional pain Jane is going through, as the emotional pain is so awful, it is indescribable.
3. There are so many characters the same age as Jane. This contrasts the different personalities in each character. Jane doesn’t really care what others think, she is an individual. The other characters rely on friends and society, while Jane relies on herself.
Today’s Blogger: Katherine
Today’s Facilitator: Rosie
Important Events:
Ch. 28 Jane is taken in by a stranger. Jane is sick and starving.
Ch. 29 Jane recovers from her illness. She refuses to take about her past. Jane goes to find new job.
Important Passage: pg. 362 Jane talks about prejudices. Jane discusses education can undo prejudices.
Focus Questions:
1. Jane’s refusal to ask for help shows her stubbornness and her firm attachment to her principles. Jane has been this way since the beginning of the book, very independent.
2. Bronte uses Jane’s suffering to develop her character. Her suffering better shows her principles and the consequences of leaving Mr. Rochester.
3. Jane’s interactions with people her age further demonstrate Jane’s character. It also give the reader a reference point in which to judge Jane’s attitude.
Today’s Blogger: Adriane
Today’s Facilitator: Claire
Important Events:
Ch.28 – Jane is stranded in Whitcross with no money or relations and prays for help and food. This plea is met only by a farmer who gives her a slice of bread. After another day alone, Jane comes across a house with three women, one a servant, studying German and waiting for a man named St. John. Jane tries to talk to the women, but they refuse to comply. After crying out, a man (St. John) allows her to come in and take shelter. After talking Jane gives them a false name, Jane Elliott.
Ch.29 – Jane spends three days in bed, but on the fourth day feels well enough to emerge. She then talks to Hannah and criticizes the way she treated Jane when she asked for help. Hannah tells Jane about Mr. Rivers (the father) and how he lost most money in a faulty business deal so the sisters Diana and Mary were forced to become governesses. She also tells Jane that they are only staying at the house because Mr. Rivers recently died. Jane tells Hannah that Jane Elliott is not her name and St. John promises to find her work.
Important Passage:
“I can but die, and I believe in God. Let me try to wait His will in silence.” (357)
Focus Questions:
1. The philosophy that Jane has “no claim to ask” for help is keeping with her character because Jane has always been her own person and self-sufficient. When Mr. Rochester wanted to provide dresses and jewels Jane did not want them because she was set in the belief that it would not be like herself. Jane’s religious belief also reflects her belief in that she will not be a parasite on others.
2. Bronte chose to have her main character to go through pain and suffering because it a plot twist that would keep readers engaged. Also, she may believe that in reality a Cinderella story is not likely to occur without trials and tribulations.
3. Jane’s connection to the many female characters shows the contrast between her simple and pure person with a society corrupted person. This also shows her little experience with men and the stereotypes that accommodates them. Jane is a quiet and gentle person, and men tend to be very harsh and spontaneous.
Today’s Blogger:
Shannon Pederson
Today’s Facilitator:
Yami
Important Events:
Ch. 28 : Jane becomes exhausts all of her money supply and becomes homeless. She begs for food and a job and ends up in house, gives a fake name of Jane Elliot.
Ch. 29: Jane enters St. John, she receives food and tells people why she is there and what has happened. She is allowed to stay until she finds somewhere, St John promised to find a job for Jane.
Important Passages:
” I can but die,” I said, “and I believe in God. Let me try to wait His will in Silence.” Pg 357
Focus Questions:
1. The suffering that Jane endures is compounded by her belief that she has “no claim to ask” for help. How is this philosophy in keeping with her character? Jane has felt her whole life that she was alone and without a real home life. So now she feels this
2. As the author of the text, Bronte is the artist who chooses what events happen in the plot. Why did she choose to create a section where her main character goes through so much pain? Is it appropriate? Bronte does this to complain about her whole life, which sucked, and her writings show empathy towards people reading. People enjoy reading about people that have problems so they can relate and know that someone, even if they are fictional, have it worse than them.
3. Brontë populates the novel with many female characters roughly the same age as Jane—Georgiana and Eliza Reed, Helen Burns, Blanche Ingram, Bertha, Mary and Diana Rivers. How do comparisons with these characters shape the reader's understanding of Jane's character? Jane is ugly and weird compared to these characters. All those females had a story and came from something Jane did not; Jane does not fit in with them. Jane is continuing to change so she can’t really make a name for her self.
Today’s Blogger:
Shannon Pederson
Today’s Facilitator:
Yami
Important Events:
Ch. 28 : Jane becomes exhausts all of her money supply and becomes homeless. She begs for food and a job and ends up in house, gives a fake name of Jane Elliot.
Ch. 29: Jane enters St. John, she receives food and tells people why she is there and what has happened. She is allowed to stay until she finds somewhere, St John promised to find a job for Jane.
Important Passages:
” I can but die,” I said, “and I believe in God. Let me try to wait His will in Silence.” Pg 357
Focus Questions:
1. The suffering that Jane endures is compounded by her belief that she has “no claim to ask” for help. How is this philosophy in keeping with her character? Jane has felt her whole life that she was alone and without a real home life. So now she feels this
2. As the author of the text, Bronte is the artist who chooses what events happen in the plot. Why did she choose to create a section where her main character goes through so much pain? Is it appropriate? Bronte does this to complain about her whole life, which sucked, and her writings show empathy towards people reading. People enjoy reading about people that have problems so they can relate and know that someone, even if they are fictional, have it worse than them.
3. Brontë populates the novel with many female characters roughly the same age as Jane—Georgiana and Eliza Reed, Helen Burns, Blanche Ingram, Bertha, Mary and Diana Rivers. How do comparisons with these characters shape the reader's understanding of Jane's character? Jane is ugly and weird compared to these characters. All those females had a story and came from something Jane did not; Jane does not fit in with them. Jane is continuing to change so she can’t really make a name for her self.
Today’s Blogger:
Trisha
Today’s Facilitator:
Elise
Important Events:
Ch. 28-Jane leaves Thornfield and is homeless for three days. Eventually she is taken in by the Rivers siblings. Jane gives the alias of Jane Elliott.
Ch. 29- Jane tells her story and confesses her real name “Jane Eyre”. St. John promises to find Jane a job.
Important Passages:
“I can but die,” I said “and I believe in God. Let me try to wait His will in silence.” P. 357
Focus Questions:
1. Jane takes everything in stride; but also has self pity internally.
2. Bronte realizes that without pain no body grows. As you go through pain in your life you can learn from it; if Jane never went through any suffering in the book then she would still be the boring girl from the beginning of the book. In the book Jane has always think with her mind and not her heart and that lead to a portion of her pain and suffering.
3. Georgiana was boy crazy whereas Jane was more held back. Helen is more of a stick to yourself person and Jane out lashes on people. Jane learns a lot from comparing herself to others. After each of the characters that Jane met and spent time with she took in and applied their personalities to her own character.
Extra Time –
Mr. R is responsible for the suffering that Jane is going through now. Jane should have stayed but due to her morals she left. Mr. R and Jane would have ended up getting annoyed with each other because their relationship was to perfect. Mr. R was too obsessive.
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